Hopper to Joyce: Joyce has no idea I'm high.

Joyce: You're high?

Hopper to Wayne: Joyce has no idea I'm high.

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Edit: hate that this silly meme i made in 4 minutes actually got ppl fighting and is my tumblr legacy, I don't even care about shipping I'm the fruity four enjoyer minding my own business in the corner (fellow fruity four & eddie enjoyers pls be my friends)

On a group vacation, Hopper would be like “Okay everyone, you know the drill. Boys and girls in separate rooms.”

And Joyce would watch as Will and Mike, Eddie and Steve, Robin and Nancy, and Jonathan and Argyle all giggle and walk off. Max would try to sneak off with Lucas but she isn’t subtle at all.

Joyce would just shake her head and say, “No, no, no. Nancy, El, Max, and Will in one room. Steve, Robin, and Jonathan together. Then, Eddie, Argyle, Lucas, Dustin, and Mike. No protesting.”

Hopper would send Joyce a look as everyone starts to groan, and Joyce would whisper, “Just trust me.”

STRANGER THINGS 4, VOL. 2 + improvised moments

No one's talking about Joyce swearing that Hopper is still alive, literally doing everything she can to get to him and pairing up with someone she met under weird circumstances in order to do so being a parallel to Mike in season 1 trying to find Will.

Mike and Will literally share shoes (and Will might be sleeping in Mike's room) and might not be dating yet when they start dating they're gonna share a whole closet and flirt with each other about how good they look in each other's clothes and just being obnoxious (I will rewatch those scenes so many times) what if they're sharing/swapping shoes because it's the 80's and they're in a really homophobic and conservative town and if they want to give little hints that they're dating and want to openly show it (to at least their friends) they have to be subtle about it? and maybe when they're at home they share clothes without feeling like they have to be careful with how they act around each other and can be openly affectionate (like them in s2)

Thank you for pointing it out @cler1csfink

Confirmation that they're the same shoes and they're both size 10 so yeah they're sharing shoes

and Mike brought these shoes from Hawkins which means the puma suede belong to Will

and in a leaked footage El and Mike broke up/ were already broken up because Mike says "we'll still be friends" and "i wanted to tell you first" which makes me think he might have came out to her (and in that video he was literally wearing his boyfriend's shoes)

video from @nowmemoriees

in s1 during that scene on the train tracks they're friends and in the leaked video they were wearing similar clothes to what they were wearing in that s1 scene where they were friends and could trust each other. i think Mike's gonna come out to her (as gay) there which would explain why El was crying, and why Mike said "i wanted to talk to you first", in s1 Mike said "friends tell the truth" to El and in s5 it's Mike's turn to be honest about himself and maybe he'll tell her he's in love with Will or maybe he'll tell her that he's dating Will

it's the same song that played when Robin came out to Steve, obviously Steve had a crush on Robin but she's a lesbian and can only love him platonically while even though Mike tried to love El romantically he couldn't do it because he's gay and he didn't even bother to close his eyes and kiss her back

plus in a deleted script it says he was mad at himself

and the song playing when Mike and El were kissing in s3 "can't fight this feeling" is about someone being in love with their friend and not knowing what to do about it while already being in a relationship with someone else so it's about Mike being in love with Will and not knowing what to do so he represses it and pushes him away to get over him but then realizing it's not working (which is something he realized at the end of s3) and he's gay and he want on a double date with Will and Lumax after that

and Mike in s4 was trying to be normal and might be into new things (men, because dnd is not new)

and

and in s4 "in the closet at rink o mania" started playing Mike took what Will said "and us?" as romantic and felt the need to clarify that they're friends and Will said they used to be best friends and the camera panned back to Mike plus synth music is his thing since he has "Smalltown Boy" (gay song) as his first song on his spotify playlist, it's a song about a gay man leaving his homophobic town to start a new life and Finn said he wants Mike to leave Hawkins

and he has a "one way" sign pointing to his closet because he's gay and closeted and in his room he has a poster of a shirtless man while the others (Steve, B*lly, and Lucas' "friends") all have women posters because they like women

Mike being obsessed with Superman? and him having a poster of a shirtless man while Steve, B*lly and the tigers all had posters of women in bikinis (because they like girls) Will has a skinny pink panther poster in his room which symbolizes his type in men (Mike) Mike has a shirtless man poster and a buff male dragon poster which symbolizes his type in men (Will) (he's not really buff but he's stronger than Mike) they're each other's type and love each other plus you can see Mike looking at Will's arms during some scenes

also in s3 he was happy about Dustin having a gf and asked him about her but then in s4 when he "finds out" Will has a crush on a "girl" he doesn't ask him about "her" and acts distant (he was pretending he didn't care but he was jealous) and he asked Will about the painting because he was hoping it was for him (it was)

and he realized Will loves him back in the van scene, Mike wants to feel needed and Will needs him, Mike felt lost without Will, Will felt lost without Mike, Will loves him, Mike loves him back, they both think the other doesn't love them, they will prove each other wrong in s5 when Mike finds out Will lied about the painting and loves him back, they love each other the way they want to be loved

and he was so happy to see Will drew a heart on his shield

which is literally an engagement ring, no hands because they'll be more than friends in s5

they've been filming a lot at that farm.. and Ross and his wife said that they enjoyed eyewitness

and Lukas and Mike both have internalized homophobia (Lukas was dating a girl to be normal and then he breaks up with his gf and starts dating Philip,his male best friend)

and if this leak is actually correct there would be another parallel

because in eyewitness Lukas gets injured and his boyfriend stays with him and he kisses his forehead, Lukas' dad sees it (he's ok with it), it would explain why Karen was at the hospital and why they needed an ambulance on the set, so if this leak is true then Will's gonna kiss Mike's forehead and Karen is gonna see it (that would mean Mike and Will are already dating)

and in s2 Mike stayed with Will at the hospital so now it's Will's turn

they've been filming a lot at that farm.. and Ross and his wife said that they enjoyed eyewitness and they filmed at like 3 or 4 different farms (one of them has swings) and they're literally filming at one right now

more s5 leaks and Mike and El staying friends after the break up and Mike being worried for Will <33 and Mike and Robin bonding over their partners being in danger

Will is wearing one of Mike's shirts in s5, Mike wore something similar in s3 it's a gap shirt and Eddie said Mike wears gap shirts and Will has never worn something like this in the previous seasons and he didn't bring that many clothes back to Hawkins so he's gonna have to wear Mike's if he's staying at Mike's (the Wheelers added 2 chairs to their breakfast table and Will's tiger plushie is in Mike's room, it makes me think that they're already dating in the scene because Will is wearing blue yellow and green which are Byler's colors

Noah liking another byler edit? fork found in the kitchen. pic from @iamforbyler from here . there are hints that Mike and Will's first kiss will be in s5 episode 7 (during Jopper's first kiss there were boxes that said MW705, Mike and Will s5 episode 7) they definitely told him to promote Byler again to introduce Byler as boyfriends to the GA and Millie is not promoting mlvn anymore and when they asked her what her favorite pop culture couple was she said the couple from twlight instead of mlvn

Will's wearing Mike's black jeans, the blue shirt looks like something s2 Mike would wear but the undershirt looks like Will's in s4. he's just stealing his boyfriend's clothes atp because Will has never worn black jeans before and he's wearing blue (Mike's color) and Mike's the only one in the party who has worn black jeans and Will might be staying at Mike's because his tiger plushie was in Mike's room and the Wheelers added 2 chairs to their breakfast table plus Will has to stay at Mike's since he doesn't have a house in Hawkins and the cabin is too small for all the Byers to live in.

maybe he's wearing Mike's black jeans from s5 instead of the s4 ones but either way they're still Mike's jeans since Will has never worn black jeans before s5 and Mike has, Will is stealing his boyfriend's clothes, plus Mike is wearing Will's shoes in s5 <33

Byler is so obviously gonna happen even without all those proofs because they gave mlvn the stancy storyline of Nancy not being able to say "I love you" to Steve because she's in love with Jonathan and they didn't give that storyline to Jopper, Lumax and Jancy or even Duzie which are healthy couples who don't lie about who they are to each other and never felt unloved by their partners, and Mike wants to feel needed and Will needs him and El doesn't and Millie said El realized she's her own superhero and that she's gonna figure out who she is without Mike and Millie is not promoting mlvn anymore

Mike and Will spent s3 acting like they were the exes because in s2 Mike was overly affectionate with Will but he stopped doing that when he got a gf because he saw what he did as romantic so in his mind being affectionate with Will even just hugging him or just holding his hand like he did in s2 would be cheating because he's in love with Will and he's gay

Mike becomes less and less interested in El the more feminine she becomes, it becomes more difficult for him to pretend he's straight i mean he "fell in love" with her when she looked like a boy and people kept calling her a boy..

Mike probably thought she was a boy at first, everyone kept calling El the boy with the buzzcut at first in s1 and Mike said "that's not Will" instead of "that's a girl" and interesting thing is the more feminine El becomes the less interested in her Mike becomes, he probably thought El was a boy at first and she was wearing a yellow shirt (Will's color) maybe she reminded him of Will?

I mean Mike being gay aside who would you rather for him to be with?

A, with someone who doesn't understand him and he feels like he has to change himself to be with and who makes him feel insicure?

B, with someone who he feels like he can fully be himself with and who understands him and who puts him on the first place and makes him feel loved? B right? with Will

Jancy had their "we're just friends" moment and they kissed in 2 and Jopper had their "it's just 2 friends getting together for a nice dinner" moment and they kissed in s4 , Lumax had their "she's not my girlfriend" moment and they kissed in s2 and Byler had their "we're friends, we're friends" moment (started by Mike who doesn't know Will is gay) and they'll kiss in s5, there were no moments like these between Dustin and Lucas because they're not in love with each other

me: i respect people’s ships and their opinions

also me:

stranger things really said: let’s do 80s sci-fi but make it ✨ trauma ✨

After scrolling through the latest leak analysis for like half an hour, I came across the fact that the scene is actually a group action scene, apparently it was confirmed by the person who recorded it.

Something which is new to me is the involvement of Hopper, a lot of people are saying that they heard Hopper/David's voice too, and when I listened to it after keeping that in mind, that makes sense actually, in some places I can hear him.

But the new theory I've got after knowing it's a group scene is that, remember how we got a pre vis, most likely last year of Dustin, Jonathan, Nancy and presumably Steve at McCookie farm/ McCookie farm Upside Down? They were screaming, and it seemed like they were somehow dragged into the upside down. So what I'm guessing is that the group includes Jonathan, Steve, Dustin, Nancy and maybe Hopper, although it could be unlikely because the pre vis was probably of the earlier episodes but still nothing is confirmed.

And if it actually does happen, that raises one more question which is, where is Nancy? We know Nancy Wheeler, she's not the type to just sit around or be scared and hide when danger comes in, she's always there to save her friends, and if that's Steve or Jonathan, there's no question about it, she's gonna fight and scream and yell at the monsters if those try to hurt any of her friends, but we can't hear her there, what if she's already dead by then? My apologies, that statement just made me wanna throw up, maybe she gets dragged somewhere scarier, but on a serious note, no actually there's a possibility, because in the previous seasons, she always directly gets linked to danger and in the latest season since vecna showed her the prophecy, so she'll try to rescue them more than ever even if it costs her her life, and though weak at the core, still the theory gets slightly stronger by that gut wrenching, heart clenching horrified scream, which implies how terrifying and haunted the situation is.

Thoughts?

duffer brothers, i just wanna talk…

whatever is going to happen tomorrow is gonna make me lose my shit, clearly.

(edit): if anyone wants to freak out with me please send asks or dm me thanks im dying here xoxo

Murray Bauman when a 3rd Byers and a 2nd Wheeler come to him with relationship issues

saw someone on instagram point out that all the suspected endgame couples are unconventional love stories for the time period.

joyce and hopper are divorcee's.

max and lucas are in an interracial relationship.

robin and vickie are sapphics.

jonathan and nancy depict the woman taking the lead in the relationship while the man supports her.

it would make so much sense if the final endgame couple would be mike and will.

if they don’t look like they’re done with everyones shit together then they clearly aren’t endgame

I had an idea at work that was literally just Grunge mom Joyce and Metalhead Eddie sitting and watching Hawaiian Shirt Hopper and Colorful Sweater Steve.

Maybe they're at a bbq or something. And these grungy metalheads are just sitting and talking and watching their colorful babes grill stuff for all the kids.

Hopper and Steve both yelling at them to calm the fuck down when they almost tumble into the grill, same dad tone and everything.

Hopper's brandishing his spatula, Steve's hands are on his hips. Eddie and Joyce just watching their tropical bird colored boys with the biggest gooeyest heart eyes.